Sabathia’s Decline = Lincecum’s Decline? Specific Patterns for Velocity Loss?

CC Sabathia‘s recent decline is looking more and more like Tim Lincecum’s also-much-scrutinized decline.  To make the point, here are some key year-by-year stats for each.

Lincecum
ERA FIP FBv K/9 BB/9 BABIP LD% LOB% HR/FB%
2009 2.48 2.34 92.4 10.42 2.72 0.282 19.2 75.9 5.5
2010 3.43 3.15 91.3 9.79 3.22 0.310 19.5 76.5 9.9
2011 2.74 3.17 92.3 9.12 3.57 0.281 19.1 78.5 8.0
2012 5.18 4.18 90.4 9.19 4.35 0.309 23.8 67.8 14.6
2013 4.37 3.74 90.2 8.79 3.46 0.300 23.1 69.4 12.1
2014* 9.90 6.24 89.9 10.80 0.90 0.393 37.5 48.1 40.0
Sabathia
ERA FIP FBv K/9 BB/9 BABIP LD% LOB% HR/FB%
2009 3.37 3.39 94.2 7.71 2.62 0.277 19.8 71.4 7.4
2010 3.18 3.54 93.5 7.46 2.80 0.281 15.1 75.6 8.6
2011 3.00 2.88 93.8 8.72 2.31 0.318 23.1 77.0 8.4
2012 3.38 3.33 92.3 8.87 1.98 0.288 21.1 71.6 12.5
2013 4.78 4.10 91.1 7.46 2.77 0.308 22.3 67.4 13.0
2014* 6.63 4.82 89.1 9.95 1.42 0.308 21.1 58.8 38.5
* – as of 4/14/14

The velocity loss is perhaps the most publicized common aspect.  Yet, while acknowledging that year 2 of Sabathia’s decline is only about 10% (19 innings) in, it’s shaping up as though there may be many other commonalities:

  • ERA above FIP when it wasn’t the case before
  • Sudden (and permanent?) spikes in HR/FB%
  • An apparent loss in ability to strand runners
  • (BABIP might also be trending up for each, but this is harder to tell, due to the regular noisiness of year-to-year BABIP.  Lincecum also saw his LD% spike, which might not be true for Sabathia.)

Having also been thinking about Nathan Eovaldi lately — who has both elite fastball velocity and an apparent ability to suppress HR/FB (7.0% in 279.2 IP) — I couldn’t help but wonder if these things are systematically related.

I remember there was some attention paid to these things when SIERA was being introduced.  But it turns out most of the attention there was on strikeouts, rather than velocity.  Obviously velocity and strikeouts are positively related.  But (1) Lincecum and Sabathia are actually still pretty good/decent at strikeouts, and this hasn’t prevented their recent struggles; (2) Eovaldi has only elite velocity, and pretty pedestrian strikeouts.  So the real question is: Does velocity itself matter, in addition to strikeouts?

(In the subsequent analysis, I’ll be looking primarily at effects on HR/FB%, LOB%, and ERA-FIP, since those seem to be problems plaguing both of the high-profile cases that prompted this line of thinking.  But there’s otherwise no reason to think those are the only intermediate outcomes where velocity may matter directly.

Also, it turns out that great velocity isn’t required for HR/FB suppression, as a look at the leaderboard in recent years includes some notable non-flamethrowers like Stults, Weaver, and Fister.  Obviously the ballpark matters a lot, too.  But there are also hard throwers near the top, and overall I remained intrigued enough to keep digging.)

Realistically, if there is something there, Sabathia and Lincecum are probably on the more extreme end of the spectrum.  Probably there have been other guys who lost similar velocity but that we didn’t hear as much about because they were better able to adapt or otherwise did not see their overall results decline so dramatically.

What do the results indicate?  By and large, it does appear that velocity matters directly, in addition to strikeouts.  (Regression results below)

HR/FB% LOB% ERA-FIP
OLS FE FD OLS FE FD OLS FE FD
K/9 -.122** .533*** .189 1.118*** .445** .509* .037*** .132*** .151
FBv -.124*** -.841*** -.656*** .140* .953*** 1.155*** -.022** -.155*** -.155***
N 1677 1677 1085 1677 1677 1085 1677 1677 1085
R2 0.015 0.511 0.009 0.125 0.575 0.0265 0.008 0.53 0.029

* = significant at 10%; ** = significant at 5%; *** = significant at 1%

I use 3 different estimation techniques for each outcome:

  • Plain-old OLS
  • Fixed effects (“FE”): estimates results within player, essentially comparing each pitcher’s own years of higher velocity/strikeouts against his years of lower velocity/strikeouts
  • First difference (“FD”): the outcome is now the one-year change in HR/FB% (etc.) for Pitcher A, while the explanatory variables are the one-year change in K/9 and FBv for Pitcher A

Of these, methods 2 and 3 are probably more convincing, since they give results for the same player, where anything else that’s distinct to the player (but invariant over time) gets washed out.  OLS doesn’t do this, and instead mostly compares across players, who may have many differences besides strikeouts and velocity.  In an exaggerated illustration, if our full sample consisted only of Tim Hudson and Felix Doubront, the fact that Hudson is altogether a better pitcher, but sort of a “pitch-to-contact soft tosser,” can make it look like strikeouts/velocity are bad, using OLS, even if having more strikeouts/more velocity is actually good for either player.

Some technical notes:

  • Sample includes player-seasons between 2010 and 2013 with at least 30 innings pitched
  • Standard errors (not displayed) are clustered by player
  • Don’t look too much into the fact that “FE” always gives the highest R2.  Most of this is from all the “specific player indicators” that are now present, rather than the “within-player” aspect, which is the actual point of using FE
  • Starters and relievers are both included.  Part of me prefers to look at just starters, but this allows for much more observations and statistical power.  I’m also not controlling for starter/reliever status, so you’d need to believe that that only matters through its effects on strikeouts and velocity.

You can maybe argue that there are other explanatory variables that should have been included, or perhaps that one needs to be more judicious about the sample to consider.   (I must admit that I threw this together fairly quickly.)  But even if the current analysis is somewhat imperfect, it appears at least plausible that velocity matters directly (for various outcomes), in addition to the rate of strikeouts.

It’s a little too bad, because coming into this season I’d thought there was a decent chance of a Sabathia bounceback, given his partial velocity rebound as 2013 went along.  But that seems to have been only temporary.  While he still may wind up bouncing back when all is said and done, I’m definitely less optimistic than I was a week ago.  Will CC be this year’s version of 2013 Lincecum, who might even tease by FIP/xFIP but continue to underwhelm?





Sam is an Oakland A's fan and economist who received his Ph.D. from UC San Diego in 2017.

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jim
10 years ago

Both CC and Lince have nice SIERAs this year too, so tempting to try and trade (dirt cheaply) for, but a part of me senses that their HR-allowed rates will continue to plague them. The question is, why–what makes them so homer-prone?