Recent Historical Comps for Rhys Hoskins

This is probably not going to be a long article but I was curious which players fit the Hoskins profile best in recent history. Carson already established the Hoskins profile as a guy who hits the ball in the air and makes contact.

For that, I searched first basemen that played from 2002 to 2017. I used 2002 because that is the year we started to have batted-ball data. It also means that it mostly covers a high-K era, although it got more extreme recently. As a cut-off, I used 1500 PAs played. 96 players fulfill those criteria.

First, I filtered for an ISO of .200 or greater. I also filtered for a BB% of greater than 9% (because Hoskins also walks), a K% of 20% or smaller, and finally a ground-ball rate of 40% or under.

That leaves a list of just eight names:

Name G PA HR BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ WAR GB%
Carlos Delgado 1044 4523 244 12.40% 19.50% 0.26 0.298 0.278 0.38 0.538 0.385 134 21.5 38.50%
Derrek Lee 1393 5980 259 11.50% 19.40% 0.222 0.325 0.289 0.374 0.511 0.38 130 31 39.30%
Jeff Bagwell 513 2195 100 13.80% 18.30% 0.22 0.301 0.277 0.382 0.496 0.378 127 12.2 39.70%
Mark Teixeira 1862 8029 409 11.40% 17.90% 0.241 0.282 0.268 0.36 0.509 0.371 127 44.9 38.70%
Anthony Rizzo 885 3799 165 11.20% 16.80% 0.222 0.288 0.269 0.368 0.491 0.369 133 23.8 39.20%
Edwin Encarnacion 1646 6781 342 11.10% 16.50% 0.233 0.272 0.265 0.354 0.498 0.366 126 29.7 36.40%
Rafael Palmeiro 573 2390 122 13.30% 11.50% 0.231 0.249 0.264 0.364 0.495 0.365 120 7.2 32.80%
Paul Konerko 1827 7458 355 10.20% 15.00% 0.211 0.285 0.278 0.357 0.489 0.363 120 18 37.90%
Average 1217.875 5144.375 249.5 0.118625 0.168625 0.23 0.2875 0.2735 0.367375 0.503375 0.372125 127.125 23.5375 0.378125

The list is a pretty good group. It averages 23 career WAR, a 127 wRC+ and a .273/.367/.503 line. The only downside there might be is that the fly-ball profile could supress BABIP some. The group has a .287 BABIP which is below the league average of .300 during that time span, especially if you consider how hard those guys hit the ball. That means that those guys do underperform their K/BB/ISO profile a little bit. For example, Konerko has a very good power/contact/discipline profile that by my math points to more of a 140+ wRC+, but his actual wRC+ is 120. That is the disadvantage of that extreme profile — you are losing some BABIP to fly outs, especially if you hit more balls in the high fly ball range, which tend to be either HRs or outs, and even more so if there is a slightly elevated pop-up rate coming in conjunction with the fly balls.

But overall that doesn’t matter that much if the K/BB/ISO profile is that good; those guys are all really good hitters even with a slightly lower BABIP. Just expect Hoskins’ hit tool to play under his contact rate a little bit due to that Bautista-like profile (who also had that lower-BABIP, pulled-fly-ball profile with great contact and walk rate).

That means Hoskins might be a .265 hitter despite above-average contact, which also makes his SLG play a little bit down on his power, but he should still get on base on a very good clip and produce excellent power. Just be a little careful when looking at his power, contact, and discipline if you want to bank him for a .300 average/.600 SLG for your fantasy team. He might pay some cost with his elevating that doesn’t come in the form of Ks, but BABIP. But nonetheless he should be very good, even if it is “just” a Konerko/Teixeira type of player and not the next Miggy like some Philly fans probably think right now.





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YKnotDisco
6 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

Along with the others you mention – Offensively – Hoskins matches up nicely with former Phillie Scott Rolen:

BB% 10.6
K% 16.6
ISO .210
GB% 35.3

Plate Discipline:
O-Swing%: Rolen 21 vs Hoskins 23.8
Z-Contact%: Rolen 89.3 vs Hoskins 91.2
Contact%: Rolen 83.6 vs Hoskins 85.9
SwSt%: Rolen 7.3 vs Hoskins 5.5

Pitch Info Plate Discipline:
O-Swing%: Rolen 26.2 vs Hoskins 28.4
Z-Contact%: Rolen 90.5 vs Hoskins 91.9
Contact%: Rolen 84.9 vs 86

YKnotDisco
6 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

That is true. I imagine that’s what gave Rolen his relatively high BABIP (.305) despite only hitting 35% GB. Like you have stated before, Hoskins will most likely run a lower than .300 BABIP by virtue of his tendency to pull the ball.

Rolen’s BB distribution is identical to Derek Lee though. With Lee being someone you compared with Hoskins – I can’t be too far off. Actually, the Pull% gap between Hoskins (46.6) and Palmeiro (53.5) and/or Teixeira (52), is bigger than between Hoskins (46.6) and Rolen (41.1).

Anyway, I think you’re probably on to something. It’ll be interesting to see what he is, once he settles in. I would think it’s safe to assume some level of regression is due – but – How much?

YKnotDisco
6 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

By my count, 5 of 8 have lower than .300 for their BABIP. (I did notice that their BABIP listed when using the leaderboards differs from their player pages – it didn’t skew the 5 of 8 though)

Since your list didn’t include Pull%, why was my comp of Rolen discounted, due to his %? Rolen has the exact same placement rates as Lee. These rates along with decent speed are a couple reasons why Lee has an elevated BABIP. Lee has the lowest Pull% (41.2) of the group. The only other two with Pull% lower than 45% are both left-handed. One of which is Rizzo. That’s where the shifting comes into play.

When it comes down to it, Hoskins is going to be the next Hoskins. He’s not any of these guys, including Rolen with more pop. It’s just fun to compare but what do we know?

TapeyBeerconemember
6 years ago

Watch out for survivor bais! By using 1,500 PAs as a cut off, you’ve excluding any and all players who may fit this profile, but who’s results caused them to drop out of the league in a couple seasons or less. I’m not sure how much the comps would change by casting a wider net, but it is not surprising that they look decent given that all the washouts have been excluded.