When Do Stars Become Scrubs?

Baseball is a game driven by stars. They create the most exciting highlight reels that captivate audiences and leave us all in awe. However, eventually every star player loses their battle with Father Time. The purpose of this research was to try and determine when a star player’s production declines to the point where they can become easily replaceable. I decided to use a process called survival analysis to determine when this event occurs.

Methodology

Survival analysis attempts to determine the probability of when an event will occur. In any survival analysis problem, you need to determine three things. You need to determine the requirements for your population, the variables to predict the time of event, and the event.

For this problem, I decided that I would include any player that had their first season of 4 WAR or higher between 1920 and 1999 in my population. I decided to use for my variables: the age when they recorded their first star season, body mass index, offensive runs above average per 150 games, and defensive runs above average per 150 games as my variables. The event I chose to predict was when the player would have his first season below 1 WAR following their star season. The cutoffs for determining stars and scrubs were fairly arbitrary, but I chose these cutoffs because the FanGraphs glossary loosely defines an All-Star season as 4-5 WAR and a scrub season as 0-1 WAR.

Determining the variables was much more difficult. I wanted to pick variables that would represent a player’s performance, age, and overall health. The age was simple enough to find, but it was difficult to find any injury history for players so I decided to calculate a player’s BMI from their listed height and weight. Obviously this isn’t a perfect representation, because a player’s weight is constantly changing throughout his career, but it’s the best that I could do given my limited resources. In order to limit my performance variables, I thought it was best to settle for the offensive runs and defensive runs component of WAR. However, since these are accumulating statistics, I had to recreate them as rate statistics in order to avoid creating correlation issues with the age variable in the model. I would have liked to use more offensive variables, but I feared that adding more inputs would make the model too convoluted and affect the accuracy of the player predictions. Alright, that’s enough preparation; let’s dive into the actual data.

Survival Rate Data

As a jumping off point, I’ll start by presenting a table of the survival rates for my population. Each season indicates the percentage of players from the original population that had not yet recorded a scrub season.

 

Season 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Survival Function 87.62% 74.28% 65.20% 54.88% 45.80% 39.06% 32.32% 26.96% 22.15% 17.19%
Season 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Survival Function 13.76% 10.73% 7.57% 5.50% 3.44% 2.06% 1.24% 0.69% 0.28% 0.00%

Let’s make some quick observations. The data shows that no star player has gone more than 20 seasons without recording a season below 1 WAR. It also appears that the survival function decays exponentially.  I also found it interesting that over 50% of stars turn into scrubs by their fifth season and that only 17% of star players survive 10 years in the majors before they register a scrub season. Looking at this data really helps to appreciate how rare it is when players like Derek Jeter and Adrian Beltre perform at a consistent level on a year to year basis.

Hazard Rate Data

Next, we will look at the hazard rate of the players in the population. One of the purposes of examining the hazard rate is to see how the rate of failure changes in a population over time. To find the hazard rate for each time period, you divide the amount of events recorded during a time period by the amount of players that have not yet registered a scrub season. Below is the following calculation for each time period in table format.

Season 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Hazard Function 12.38% 15.23% 12.22% 15.82% 16.54% 14.71% 17.25% 16.60% 17.86% 22.36%
Season 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Hazard Function 20.00% 22.00% 29.49% 27.27% 37.50% 40.00% 40.00% 44.44% 60.00% 100.00%

As you can see by the table above, the hazard rate generally increases with each passing season. This makes sense, because as players age, their skill level decreases and their odds of registering a scrub season will increase. However, the hazard rates are fairly constant for the first ten years and then rapidly increase from then on. I’m rather surprised that the hazard rates stayed so consistent for the first ten or so years. I would have guessed that the hazard function would have increased much more rapidly with each passing season.

Determining the Model

It is important to identify the trend of the hazard function, because it helps determine which distribution to use when creating a parametric model. If the hazard rate increases exponentially, you are supposed to use a Weibull distribution. If the hazard rate is constant, you are supposed to use an exponential distribution. Since the hazard function was increasing, I originally attempted to the use the Weibull distribution for the model but I found that the model was predicting too many players to fail in the first few seasons, so I decided to try an exponential distribution instead.

I found that the exponential distribution model was more accurate at predicting survival rates in the first ten years, but severely under predicted the amount of players that would record a scrub season after ten years. I decided to use the exponential distribution, because I believe that it would be far more useful to accurately predict the first ten years instead of the last ten years, since only 17% of players survive ten years. I also believe that any franchise would be thrilled to obtain ten years of stardom from a player and anymore production is just an added bonus.

Survival Rate Estimates

Below is a table of each star player from 2000 to 2014 with the year they entered the population, the time until they became a scrub, every variable included in the model and their predicted survival rate for each of their first ten seasons since becoming a star.

Year Entered Name Time of Event Age BMI Off Def Season 1 Season 2 Season 3 Season 4 Season 5 Season 6 Season 7 Season 8 Season 9 Season 10
2000 Bobby Higginson 2 29 25.1 14.7 -11.0 77.83% 60.58% 47.15% 36.70% 28.56% 22.23% 17.30% 13.47% 10.48% 8.16%
2000 Darin Erstad 6 26 25.0 8.2 8.0 83.94% 70.46% 59.14% 49.64% 41.67% 34.98% 29.36% 24.64% 20.68% 17.36%
2000 Jorge Posada 8 28 27.6 11.2 7.1 80.94% 65.51% 53.02% 42.91% 34.73% 28.11% 22.75% 18.41% 14.90% 12.06%
2000 Jose Vidro 4 25 24.4 3.1 -4.9 83.43% 69.61% 58.07% 48.45% 40.42% 33.72% 28.14% 23.47% 19.58% 16.34%
2000 Phil Nevin 2 29 23.1 5.1 -2.8 76.52% 58.55% 44.80% 34.28% 26.23% 20.07% 15.36% 11.75% 8.99% 6.88%
2000 Richard Hidalgo 2 25 27.5 19.6 9.5 87.32% 76.24% 66.57% 58.13% 50.75% 44.32% 38.69% 33.79% 29.50% 25.76%
2000 Shannon Stewart 5 26 23.7 9.9 -3.2 83.26% 69.33% 57.73% 48.07% 40.02% 33.32% 27.75% 23.10% 19.24% 16.02%
2000 Todd Helton 8 26 28.2 25.4 -1.4 86.03% 74.01% 63.67% 54.77% 47.12% 40.53% 34.87% 30.00% 25.81% 22.20%
2000 Troy Glaus 3 23 26.1 12.2 9.0 88.69% 78.66% 69.76% 61.87% 54.87% 48.66% 43.16% 38.28% 33.95% 30.11%
2001 Albert Pujols 12 21 28.7 47.2 0.8 93.62% 87.66% 82.07% 76.84% 71.94% 67.35% 63.06% 59.04% 55.27% 51.75%
2001 Aramis Ramirez 1 23 27.0 -3.7 -2.3 85.43% 72.99% 62.35% 53.27% 45.51% 38.88% 33.22% 28.38% 24.24% 20.71%
2001 Bret Boone 3 32 25.8 -4.0 -0.5 66.26% 43.91% 29.09% 19.28% 12.77% 8.46% 5.61% 3.72% 2.46% 1.63%
2001 Cliff Floyd 5 28 26.1 13.4 -6.7 79.99% 63.98% 51.18% 40.94% 32.75% 26.19% 20.95% 16.76% 13.41% 10.72%
2001 Corey Koskie 6 28 26.9 11.2 7.7 81.02% 65.64% 53.18% 43.08% 34.90% 28.28% 22.91% 18.56% 15.04% 12.18%
2001 Eric Chavez 6 23 28.4 8.8 3.4 87.79% 77.06% 67.65% 59.39% 52.13% 45.77% 40.18% 35.27% 30.96% 27.18%
2001 Ichiro Suzuki 10 27 23.7 26.6 7.5 85.65% 73.36% 62.83% 53.82% 46.10% 39.48% 33.82% 28.96% 24.81% 21.25%
2001 J.D. Drew 10 25 26.4 25.6 10.8 88.29% 77.95% 68.82% 60.76% 53.65% 47.37% 41.82% 36.92% 32.60% 28.78%
2001 Lance Berkman 11 25 29.0 35.8 -6.9 88.44% 78.21% 69.17% 61.17% 54.10% 47.84% 42.31% 37.42% 33.09% 29.27%
2001 Mike Sweeney 3 27 25.7 12.9 -7.4 81.67% 66.70% 54.48% 44.49% 36.34% 29.68% 24.24% 19.80% 16.17% 13.21%
2001 Paul Lo Duca 6 29 27.7 11.2 14.7 79.86% 63.78% 50.94% 40.68% 32.49% 25.95% 20.72% 16.55% 13.22% 10.56%
2001 Placido Polanco 5 25 28.1 -9.1 12.1 82.55% 68.14% 56.25% 46.43% 38.33% 31.64% 26.12% 21.56% 17.80% 14.69%
2001 Rich Aurilia 6 29 23.1 4.1 10.1 77.86% 60.63% 47.21% 36.76% 28.62% 22.28% 17.35% 13.51% 10.52% 8.19%
2001 Ryan Klesko 5 30 27.5 21.8 -10.8 77.39% 59.89% 46.35% 35.87% 27.76% 21.48% 16.63% 12.87% 9.96% 7.71%
2001 Torii Hunter 13 25 28.9 -11.5 7.3 81.57% 66.53% 54.27% 44.26% 36.10% 29.45% 24.02% 19.59% 15.98% 13.03%
2002 Adam Dunn 6 22 32.9 25.5 -4.2 90.45% 81.82% 74.01% 66.94% 60.55% 54.77% 49.54% 44.81% 40.54% 36.67%
2002 Adrian Beltre N/A 23 30.7 -0.8 10.8 86.84% 75.41% 65.49% 56.87% 49.39% 42.89% 37.24% 32.34% 28.09% 24.39%
2002 Alfonso Soriano 7 26 25.7 11.8 -11.3 82.81% 68.57% 56.78% 47.02% 38.93% 32.24% 26.70% 22.11% 18.31% 15.16%
2002 Austin Kearns 2 22 30.0 31.7 17.8 92.26% 85.12% 78.53% 72.45% 66.84% 61.67% 56.89% 52.49% 48.43% 44.68%
2002 David Eckstein 5 27 27.4 4.8 5.3 81.22% 65.97% 53.58% 43.52% 35.34% 28.71% 23.31% 18.94% 15.38% 12.49%
2002 Edgar Renteria 7 25 26.4 -6.1 8.4 82.83% 68.61% 56.83% 47.08% 38.99% 32.30% 26.76% 22.16% 18.36% 15.21%
2002 Eric Hinske 2 24 30.2 21.6 4.6 88.41% 78.16% 69.10% 61.09% 54.00% 47.74% 42.21% 37.31% 32.99% 29.16%
2002 Jacque Jones 2 27 25.1 0.5 4.9 80.34% 64.54% 51.85% 41.66% 33.47% 26.89% 21.60% 17.35% 13.94% 11.20%
2002 Jose Hernandez 1 32 23.7 -8.5 8.1 66.31% 43.97% 29.16% 19.34% 12.82% 8.50% 5.64% 3.74% 2.48% 1.64%
2002 Junior Spivey 1 27 25.1 15.0 0.7 82.92% 68.76% 57.01% 47.28% 39.20% 32.50% 26.95% 22.35% 18.53% 15.37%
2002 Mark Kotsay 4 26 29.8 -0.1 11.5 82.51% 68.08% 56.18% 46.35% 38.25% 31.56% 26.04% 21.49% 17.73% 14.63%
2002 Miguel Tejada 8 28 32.5 3.5 1.8 78.40% 61.46% 48.19% 37.78% 29.62% 23.22% 18.20% 14.27% 11.19% 8.77%
2002 Pat Burrell 1 25 28.6 16.1 -15.1 84.76% 71.84% 60.90% 51.62% 43.75% 37.08% 31.43% 26.64% 22.58% 19.14%
2002 Randy Winn 8 28 22.5 -3.9 -0.8 76.68% 58.80% 45.09% 34.57% 26.51% 20.33% 15.59% 11.95% 9.17% 7.03%
2003 Bill Mueller 3 32 24.4 9.6 2.9 71.27% 50.80% 36.20% 25.80% 18.39% 13.11% 9.34% 6.66% 4.75% 3.38%
2003 Garret Anderson 1 31 23.7 2.7 0.7 71.50% 51.13% 36.56% 26.14% 18.69% 13.37% 9.56% 6.83% 4.89% 3.49%
2003 Hank Blalock 2 22 25.3 2.4 12.3 88.77% 78.80% 69.94% 62.09% 55.11% 48.92% 43.43% 38.55% 34.22% 30.37%
2003 Javy Lopez 3 32 23.1 8.8 7.8 71.83% 51.59% 37.06% 26.62% 19.12% 13.73% 9.87% 7.09% 5.09% 3.66%
2003 Jeff DaVanon 2 29 25.1 3.7 9.6 77.61% 60.23% 46.75% 36.28% 28.16% 21.85% 16.96% 13.16% 10.21% 7.93%
2003 Juan Pierre 5 25 25.8 -9.8 10.9 82.36% 67.84% 55.87% 46.02% 37.90% 31.22% 25.71% 21.18% 17.44% 14.37%
2003 Luis Castillo 5 27 20.2 0.5 3.3 80.34% 64.55% 51.86% 41.67% 33.48% 26.89% 21.61% 17.36% 13.95% 11.21%
2003 Marcus Giles 4 25 27.4 17.2 9.8 86.98% 75.66% 65.81% 57.24% 49.79% 43.31% 37.67% 32.77% 28.50% 24.79%
2003 Mark Loretta 2 31 23.7 -1.0 -1.9 69.97% 48.96% 34.25% 23.97% 16.77% 11.73% 8.21% 5.74% 4.02% 2.81%
2003 Melvin Mora 6 31 27.9 4.1 5.8 72.44% 52.48% 38.01% 27.54% 19.95% 14.45% 10.47% 7.58% 5.49% 3.98%
2003 Mike Lowell 2 29 23.7 7.4 2.3 77.70% 60.37% 46.90% 36.44% 28.31% 22.00% 17.09% 13.28% 10.32% 8.02%
2003 Milton Bradley 6 25 29.2 -2.7 7.1 83.29% 69.36% 57.77% 48.11% 40.07% 33.37% 27.80% 23.15% 19.28% 16.06%
2003 Morgan Ensberg 1 27 27.0 14.4 10.3 83.64% 69.96% 58.52% 48.95% 40.94% 34.25% 28.64% 23.96% 20.04% 16.76%
2003 Orlando Cabrera 1 28 28.0 -10.3 10.2 76.18% 58.04% 44.21% 33.68% 25.66% 19.55% 14.89% 11.34% 8.64% 6.58%
2003 Rafael Furcal 8 25 29.6 2.7 6.5 84.23% 70.94% 59.75% 50.33% 42.39% 35.70% 30.07% 25.33% 21.33% 17.97%
2003 Trot Nixon 4 29 25.7 16.8 -0.3 79.54% 63.27% 50.33% 40.04% 31.85% 25.33% 20.15% 16.03% 12.75% 10.14%
2004 Aaron Rowand 4 26 28.5 8.6 10.6 84.15% 70.81% 59.58% 50.14% 42.19% 35.50% 29.87% 25.14% 21.15% 17.80%
2004 Aubrey Huff 1 27 27.4 12.5 -11.3 81.13% 65.82% 53.40% 43.32% 35.15% 28.52% 23.14% 18.77% 15.23% 12.35%
2004 Brad Wilkerson 2 27 27.1 13.8 -3.1 82.23% 67.62% 55.61% 45.73% 37.61% 30.93% 25.43% 20.91% 17.20% 14.14%
2004 Carl Crawford 7 22 28.9 -3.4 13.0 87.93% 77.31% 67.98% 59.77% 52.56% 46.21% 40.63% 35.73% 31.41% 27.62%
2004 Carlos Guillen 5 28 28.4 4.7 5.7 79.30% 62.89% 49.87% 39.55% 31.36% 24.87% 19.72% 15.64% 12.40% 9.84%
2004 Carlos Lee 5 28 34.7 9.9 -3.6 79.19% 62.71% 49.66% 39.32% 31.14% 24.66% 19.53% 15.46% 12.25% 9.70%
2004 Coco Crisp 2 24 26.5 -4.6 9.9 84.85% 72.00% 61.09% 51.83% 43.98% 37.32% 31.67% 26.87% 22.80% 19.34%
2004 Corey Patterson 1 24 25.8 -5.1 8.8 84.68% 71.71% 60.73% 51.43% 43.55% 36.88% 31.23% 26.45% 22.40% 18.97%
2004 David Ortiz 5 28 28.0 14.6 -14.8 79.28% 62.85% 49.82% 39.50% 31.31% 24.82% 19.68% 15.60% 12.37% 9.80%
2004 Jack Wilson 2 26 27.1 -18.0 11.7 78.73% 61.99% 48.80% 38.42% 30.25% 23.82% 18.75% 14.76% 11.62% 9.15%
2004 Jason Varitek 2 32 29.5 1.4 8.6 69.34% 48.08% 33.34% 23.12% 16.03% 11.11% 7.71% 5.34% 3.70% 2.57%
2004 Jimmy Rollins N/A 25 27.4 -3.1 6.4 83.21% 69.24% 57.61% 47.94% 39.89% 33.19% 27.62% 22.98% 19.12% 15.91%
2004 Mark Teixeira 9 24 26.9 11.9 -1.9 86.61% 75.01% 64.96% 56.26% 48.72% 42.20% 36.55% 31.65% 27.41% 23.74%
2004 Travis Hafner 4 27 30.0 26.7 -17.1 83.33% 69.44% 57.86% 48.22% 40.18% 33.48% 27.90% 23.25% 19.37% 16.14%
2004 Vernon Wells 5 25 30.3 9.2 -2.8 84.56% 71.50% 60.46% 51.12% 43.23% 36.56% 30.91% 26.14% 22.10% 18.69%
2005 Brian Roberts 6 27 25.8 4.8 6.0 81.34% 66.16% 53.82% 43.78% 35.61% 28.96% 23.56% 19.16% 15.59% 12.68%
2005 Chase Utley N/A 26 26.4 15.7 13.2 85.66% 73.37% 62.85% 53.83% 46.11% 39.50% 33.83% 28.98% 24.82% 21.26%
2005 David DeJesus 9 25 26.5 6.8 2.8 84.73% 71.79% 60.82% 51.53% 43.66% 36.99% 31.34% 26.56% 22.50% 19.06%
2005 David Wright N/A 22 27.8 31.4 1.5 91.48% 83.69% 76.57% 70.04% 64.08% 58.62% 53.63% 49.06% 44.88% 41.06%
2005 Derrek Lee 1 29 28.5 18.4 -11.5 78.52% 61.66% 48.42% 38.02% 29.85% 23.44% 18.41% 14.45% 11.35% 8.91%
2005 Felipe Lopez 2 25 27.8 -3.9 1.5 82.57% 68.17% 56.29% 46.47% 38.37% 31.68% 26.16% 21.60% 17.83% 14.72%
2005 Grady Sizemore 5 22 25.7 16.2 11.2 90.39% 81.71% 73.86% 66.76% 60.35% 54.55% 49.31% 44.57% 40.29% 36.42%
2005 Jason Bay 2 26 27.0 37.1 -15.6 86.82% 75.37% 65.44% 56.81% 49.32% 42.82% 37.17% 32.27% 28.02% 24.32%
2005 Jhonny Peralta 1 23 27.6 6.0 2.9 87.36% 76.33% 66.68% 58.26% 50.90% 44.46% 38.85% 33.94% 29.65% 25.90%
2005 Julio Lugo 2 29 23.1 -3.3 6.7 75.53% 57.05% 43.09% 32.55% 24.58% 18.57% 14.03% 10.59% 8.00% 6.04%
2005 Mark Ellis 9 28 27.3 6.3 8.1 79.97% 63.95% 51.14% 40.89% 32.70% 26.15% 20.91% 16.72% 13.37% 10.69%
2005 Michael Young 7 28 26.4 3.9 -4.8 77.96% 60.77% 47.37% 36.93% 28.79% 22.44% 17.50% 13.64% 10.63% 8.29%
2005 Miguel Cabrera N/A 22 29.2 23.8 -13.8 89.77% 80.58% 72.33% 64.93% 58.28% 52.32% 46.96% 42.16% 37.84% 33.97%
2005 Nick Johnson 3 26 29.4 12.9 -7.3 83.28% 69.35% 57.75% 48.09% 40.05% 33.35% 27.77% 23.13% 19.26% 16.04%
2005 Richie Sexson 2 30 23.7 18.2 -12.9 76.37% 58.32% 44.54% 34.01% 25.98% 19.84% 15.15% 11.57% 8.84% 6.75%
2005 Victor Martinez 3 26 27.0 7.3 7.4 83.66% 70.00% 58.56% 49.00% 40.99% 34.30% 28.69% 24.01% 20.08% 16.80%
2006 Bill Hall 2 26 28.5 2.4 5.5 82.47% 68.01% 56.08% 46.25% 38.14% 31.45% 25.94% 21.39% 17.64% 14.55%
2006 Brandon Inge 2 29 26.5 -11.3 12.0 73.90% 54.62% 40.37% 29.83% 22.05% 16.29% 12.04% 8.90% 6.58% 4.86%
2006 Brian McCann N/A 22 28.7 12.3 8.4 89.71% 80.47% 72.19% 64.76% 58.09% 52.11% 46.75% 41.94% 37.62% 33.75%
2006 Curtis Granderson N/A 25 26.4 3.3 12.5 84.96% 72.18% 61.33% 52.11% 44.27% 37.61% 31.96% 27.15% 23.07% 19.60%
2006 Dan Uggla 7 26 29.3 13.1 7.2 84.62% 71.60% 60.58% 51.26% 43.38% 36.70% 31.06% 26.28% 22.24% 18.81%
2006 Freddy Sanchez 2 28 27.1 3.1 11.9 79.68% 63.49% 50.58% 40.31% 32.11% 25.59% 20.39% 16.25% 12.94% 10.31%
2006 Garrett Atkins 2 26 24.4 7.3 1.9 83.22% 69.26% 57.64% 47.97% 39.93% 33.23% 27.65% 23.02% 19.15% 15.94%
2006 Hanley Ramirez 5 22 28.9 22.4 -2.3 90.28% 81.50% 73.58% 66.43% 59.97% 54.14% 48.88% 44.12% 39.84% 35.96%
2006 Joe Mauer N/A 23 27.3 23.2 7.6 89.97% 80.94% 72.82% 65.52% 58.94% 53.03% 47.71% 42.92% 38.62% 34.74%
2006 Jose Reyes 3 23 26.4 3.8 9.7 87.55% 76.66% 67.12% 58.76% 51.45% 45.05% 39.44% 34.53% 30.24% 26.47%
2006 Ramon Hernandez 2 30 29.8 -2.7 14.1 74.04% 54.81% 40.58% 30.05% 22.24% 16.47% 12.19% 9.03% 6.68% 4.95%
2006 Reed Johnson 1 29 27.3 1.8 -0.3 75.78% 57.43% 43.52% 32.98% 25.00% 18.94% 14.36% 10.88% 8.24% 6.25%
2006 Ryan Howard 6 26 30.4 39.3 -11.0 87.40% 76.38% 66.76% 58.34% 50.99% 44.56% 38.95% 34.04% 29.75% 26.00%
2007 Alex Rios 2 26 24.9 6.4 5.2 83.34% 69.46% 57.89% 48.25% 40.21% 33.51% 27.93% 23.28% 19.40% 16.17%
2007 B.J. Upton 6 22 23.1 14.7 -5.7 89.26% 79.67% 71.11% 63.47% 56.65% 50.57% 45.14% 40.29% 35.96% 32.10%
2007 Brandon Phillips N/A 26 27.1 -11.3 7.9 79.86% 63.78% 50.93% 40.67% 32.48% 25.94% 20.72% 16.54% 13.21% 10.55%
2007 Carlos Pena 5 29 28.9 18.1 -16.3 77.86% 60.61% 47.19% 36.74% 28.61% 22.27% 17.34% 13.50% 10.51% 8.18%
2007 Chone Figgins 4 29 27.4 9.7 -3.0 77.46% 59.99% 46.47% 35.99% 27.88% 21.59% 16.73% 12.95% 10.03% 7.77%
2007 Corey Hart 1 25 26.6 10.8 -2.5 84.98% 72.21% 61.36% 52.14% 44.31% 37.65% 32.00% 27.19% 23.10% 19.63%
2007 Kevin Youkilis 6 28 29.0 12.3 0.3 80.40% 64.65% 51.98% 41.79% 33.60% 27.02% 21.72% 17.47% 14.04% 11.29%
2007 Matt Holliday N/A 27 30.4 26.0 -7.6 84.05% 70.65% 59.38% 49.91% 41.95% 35.26% 29.64% 24.91% 20.94% 17.60%
2007 Nick Markakis 6 23 25.1 11.1 -2.0 87.81% 77.11% 67.71% 59.46% 52.21% 45.85% 40.26% 35.35% 31.04% 27.26%
2007 Nick Swisher 7 26 27.1 16.7 -4.8 84.28% 71.02% 59.86% 50.44% 42.51% 35.83% 30.19% 25.45% 21.44% 18.07%
2007 Prince Fielder 7 23 38.4 22.1 -17.8 87.95% 77.35% 68.03% 59.83% 52.62% 46.28% 40.71% 35.80% 31.49% 27.69%
2007 Robinson Cano 1 24 28.5 11.7 -6.1 86.21% 74.31% 64.06% 55.22% 47.61% 41.04% 35.38% 30.50% 26.29% 22.66%
2007 Russell Martin N/A 24 30.8 10.5 14.4 87.50% 76.57% 67.00% 58.62% 51.30% 44.89% 39.28% 34.37% 30.07% 26.31%
2007 Ryan Zimmerman N/A 22 27.5 9.1 10.4 89.46% 80.03% 71.60% 64.05% 57.30% 51.27% 45.86% 41.03% 36.71% 32.84%
2007 Troy Tulowitzki 1 22 26.9 2.2 15.8 88.92% 79.07% 70.32% 62.53% 55.60% 49.44% 43.97% 39.10% 34.77% 30.92%
2008 Carlos Quentin 1 25 31.0 14.5 -2.6 85.47% 73.05% 62.43% 53.36% 45.60% 38.98% 33.31% 28.47% 24.33% 20.80%
2008 Dustin Pedroia N/A 24 25.1 13.5 6.3 87.51% 76.58% 67.01% 58.64% 51.32% 44.91% 39.30% 34.39% 30.09% 26.33%
2008 Evan Longoria N/A 22 27.0 25.9 21.9 91.95% 84.55% 77.75% 71.49% 65.74% 60.45% 55.59% 51.11% 47.00% 43.22%
2008 Ian Kinsler N/A 26 27.1 18.2 -6.5 84.40% 71.24% 60.13% 50.75% 42.84% 36.16% 30.52% 25.76% 21.74% 18.35%
2008 J.J. Hardy N/A 25 25.1 -2.1 15.9 84.34% 71.13% 59.98% 50.59% 42.66% 35.98% 30.35% 25.59% 21.58% 18.20%
2008 Jacoby Ellsbury 2 24 25.7 7.4 16.9 87.36% 76.32% 66.67% 58.24% 50.88% 44.45% 38.83% 33.92% 29.63% 25.89%
2008 Jayson Werth 4 29 28.5 12.8 10.6 79.75% 63.60% 50.72% 40.45% 32.26% 25.73% 20.52% 16.36% 13.05% 10.41%
2008 Josh Hamilton N/A 27 29.2 28.3 -9.6 84.33% 71.12% 59.97% 50.58% 42.65% 35.97% 30.33% 25.58% 21.57% 18.19%
2008 Mark DeRosa 2 33 28.4 -1.6 0.9 64.22% 41.24% 26.48% 17.01% 10.92% 7.01% 4.50% 2.89% 1.86% 1.19%
2008 Mike Aviles 1 27 29.4 20.3 21.5 85.59% 73.26% 62.70% 53.66% 45.93% 39.31% 33.65% 28.80% 24.65% 21.10%
2008 Ryan Braun 6 24 25.7 36.6 -17.5 89.07% 79.33% 70.66% 62.94% 56.06% 49.93% 44.47% 39.61% 35.28% 31.43%
2008 Ryan Ludwick 3 29 27.6 16.6 0.2 79.47% 63.15% 50.19% 39.88% 31.69% 25.19% 20.02% 15.91% 12.64% 10.04%
2008 Shane Victorino 6 27 28.1 4.0 9.1 81.43% 66.31% 53.99% 43.96% 35.80% 29.15% 23.74% 19.33% 15.74% 12.82%
2009 Aaron Hill 2 27 28.6 3.3 4.0 80.72% 65.16% 52.60% 42.46% 34.27% 27.67% 22.33% 18.03% 14.55% 11.75%
2009 Adrian Gonzalez N/A 27 28.9 19.8 -10.1 82.68% 68.37% 56.53% 46.74% 38.65% 31.96% 26.42% 21.85% 18.07% 14.94%
2009 Ben Zobrist N/A 28 26.2 11.9 9.9 81.42% 66.29% 53.98% 43.95% 35.78% 29.14% 23.72% 19.32% 15.73% 12.81%
2009 Casey Blake 3 35 26.3 5.8 0.1 60.57% 36.69% 22.23% 13.46% 8.15% 4.94% 2.99% 1.81% 1.10% 0.66%
2009 Denard Span N/A 25 28.5 23.8 -1.6 87.10% 75.87% 66.08% 57.56% 50.13% 43.67% 38.03% 33.13% 28.86% 25.13%
2009 Franklin Gutierrez 3 26 25.0 -1.8 18.8 83.05% 68.97% 57.28% 47.57% 39.50% 32.81% 27.25% 22.63% 18.79% 15.61%
2009 Jason Bartlett 3 29 25.8 5.9 13.7 78.61% 61.79% 48.58% 38.19% 30.02% 23.60% 18.55% 14.58% 11.46% 9.01%
2009 Joey Votto N/A 25 28.2 28.7 -8.1 87.36% 76.32% 66.67% 58.24% 50.88% 44.45% 38.83% 33.92% 29.64% 25.89%
2009 Justin Upton N/A 21 26.3 13.3 -6.9 90.00% 81.01% 72.91% 65.62% 59.06% 53.16% 47.84% 43.06% 38.76% 34.88%
2009 Marco Scutaro 5 33 26.5 -5.2 3.3 63.45% 40.26% 25.55% 16.21% 10.29% 6.53% 4.14% 2.63% 1.67% 1.06%
2009 Matt Kemp 1 24 26.2 16.9 -4.8 87.18% 76.00% 66.26% 57.76% 50.36% 43.90% 38.27% 33.37% 29.09% 25.36%
2009 Michael Bourn 5 26 25.8 -2.5 7.8 81.80% 66.92% 54.74% 44.78% 36.63% 29.96% 24.51% 20.05% 16.40% 13.42%
2009 Nyjer Morgan 1 28 25.8 3.4 27.3 81.46% 66.35% 54.05% 44.03% 35.86% 29.21% 23.80% 19.38% 15.79% 12.86%
2009 Pablo Sandoval N/A 22 34.2 29.1 -1.6 90.97% 82.76% 75.29% 68.49% 62.31% 56.68% 51.56% 46.91% 42.67% 38.82%
2009 Shin-Soo Choo 5 26 28.6 28.4 -5.3 86.20% 74.30% 64.05% 55.21% 47.59% 41.02% 35.36% 30.48% 26.28% 22.65%
2010 Alexei Ramirez N/A 28 23.1 -3.3 6.6 77.71% 60.39% 46.93% 36.47% 28.34% 22.03% 17.12% 13.30% 10.34% 8.03%
2010 Andres Torres 3 32 28.0 6.1 14.2 71.73% 51.45% 36.90% 26.47% 18.99% 13.62% 9.77% 7.01% 5.03% 3.61%
2010 Angel Pagan 1 28 25.7 6.4 8.6 80.12% 64.20% 51.43% 41.21% 33.02% 26.46% 21.20% 16.98% 13.61% 10.90%
2010 Austin Jackson 4 23 24.4 8.2 7.5 88.08% 77.59% 68.34% 60.20% 53.02% 46.71% 41.14% 36.24% 31.92% 28.12%
2010 Brett Gardner 2 26 26.5 8.2 21.3 85.05% 72.34% 61.52% 52.33% 44.51% 37.85% 32.19% 27.38% 23.29% 19.81%
2010 Buster Posey N/A 23 28.4 18.0 10.6 89.49% 80.08% 71.67% 64.13% 57.39% 51.36% 45.96% 41.13% 36.81% 32.94%
2010 Carlos Gonzalez 4 24 29.0 17.4 3.5 87.78% 77.06% 67.64% 59.38% 52.12% 45.75% 40.16% 35.26% 30.95% 27.17%
2010 Carlos Ruiz N/A 31 29.4 -5.0 14.6 70.92% 50.30% 35.68% 25.30% 17.95% 12.73% 9.03% 6.40% 4.54% 3.22%
2010 Chase Headley N/A 26 28.2 1.9 -2.1 81.63% 66.64% 54.40% 44.40% 36.25% 29.59% 24.15% 19.72% 16.09% 13.14%
2010 Chris Young 3 26 25.7 -1.1 0.5 81.34% 66.17% 53.82% 43.78% 35.61% 28.97% 23.56% 19.17% 15.59% 12.68%
2010 Colby Rasmus 1 23 25.0 12.8 3.8 88.46% 78.25% 69.21% 61.23% 54.16% 47.91% 42.38% 37.49% 33.16% 29.33%
2010 Daric Barton 1 24 27.8 11.8 -2.8 86.51% 74.84% 64.74% 56.00% 48.45% 41.91% 36.25% 31.36% 27.13% 23.47%
2010 Jason Heyward N/A 20 29.0 28.5 -1.1 92.70% 85.94% 79.67% 73.86% 68.47% 63.47% 58.84% 54.55% 50.57% 46.88%
2010 Jay Bruce 4 23 26.9 7.5 5.6 87.79% 77.07% 67.66% 59.40% 52.15% 45.78% 40.19% 35.28% 30.98% 27.19%
2010 Jose Bautista N/A 29 27.8 3.5 -9.0 75.07% 56.35% 42.30% 31.76% 23.84% 17.90% 13.43% 10.08% 7.57% 5.68%
2010 Justin Morneau 1 29 26.8 17.0 -7.5 78.72% 61.96% 48.78% 38.39% 30.22% 23.79% 18.73% 14.74% 11.60% 9.13%
2010 Kelly Johnson 2 28 26.4 9.5 2.2 80.07% 64.12% 51.34% 41.11% 32.92% 26.36% 21.11% 16.90% 13.53% 10.84%
2010 Marlon Byrd 2 32 33.2 0.9 1.7 67.87% 46.07% 31.27% 21.22% 14.41% 9.78% 6.64% 4.50% 3.06% 2.08%
2010 Nelson Cruz N/A 29 29.5 10.2 4.0 78.35% 61.38% 48.09% 37.68% 29.52% 23.13% 18.12% 14.20% 11.12% 8.71%
2010 Rickie Weeks 3 27 31.6 12.0 -3.6 81.66% 66.68% 54.45% 44.47% 36.31% 29.65% 24.21% 19.77% 16.15% 13.18%
2010 Stephen Drew 2 27 25.8 -0.7 1.5 79.66% 63.46% 50.55% 40.27% 32.08% 25.56% 20.36% 16.22% 12.92% 10.29%
2011 Alex Avila 2 24 29.3 9.9 1.4 86.49% 74.80% 64.69% 55.95% 48.39% 41.85% 36.20% 31.31% 27.08% 23.42%
2011 Alex Gordon N/A 27 29.0 7.0 1.0 81.18% 65.90% 53.49% 43.43% 35.25% 28.62% 23.23% 18.86% 15.31% 12.43%
2011 Andrew McCutchen N/A 24 27.3 24.1 -1.9 88.39% 78.12% 69.05% 61.03% 53.95% 47.68% 42.14% 37.25% 32.92% 29.10%
2011 Cameron Maybin 2 24 25.6 4.7 6.9 86.19% 74.29% 64.03% 55.19% 47.57% 41.00% 35.34% 30.46% 26.26% 22.63%
2011 Elvis Andrus N/A 22 27.1 -4.6 13.7 87.84% 77.16% 67.78% 59.53% 52.30% 45.94% 40.35% 35.44% 31.13% 27.35%
2011 Giancarlo Stanton N/A 21 27.7 20.6 0.6 91.21% 83.19% 75.87% 69.20% 63.12% 57.57% 52.51% 47.89% 43.68% 39.84%
2011 Howie Kendrick N/A 27 30.1 4.5 6.1 81.14% 65.84% 53.42% 43.34% 35.17% 28.54% 23.15% 18.79% 15.24% 12.37%
2011 Hunter Pence N/A 28 26.8 15.2 -1.6 80.92% 65.47% 52.98% 42.87% 34.69% 28.07% 22.71% 18.38% 14.87% 12.03%
2011 Matt Wieters 3 25 28.5 -7.6 18.4 83.43% 69.60% 58.07% 48.45% 40.42% 33.72% 28.13% 23.47% 19.58% 16.34%
2011 Mike Napoli N/A 29 29.8 20.5 2.3 80.50% 64.81% 52.17% 42.00% 33.81% 27.22% 21.91% 17.64% 14.20% 11.43%
2011 Peter Bourjos 2 24 24.4 4.6 20.5 87.24% 76.11% 66.40% 57.92% 50.53% 44.09% 38.46% 33.55% 29.27% 25.54%
2011 Yadier Molina N/A 28 30.7 -14.6 20.1 76.20% 58.06% 44.24% 33.71% 25.69% 19.58% 14.92% 11.37% 8.66% 6.60%
2012 Adam Jones N/A 26 28.1 4.2 -1.8 82.13% 67.46% 55.41% 45.51% 37.38% 30.70% 25.22% 20.71% 17.01% 13.97%
2012 Bryce Harper N/A 19 28.1 18.0 9.0 92.98% 86.45% 80.38% 74.73% 69.48% 64.60% 60.07% 55.85% 51.93% 48.28%
2012 Edwin Encarnacion N/A 29 30.3 10.1 -11.4 76.39% 58.36% 44.58% 34.06% 26.02% 19.88% 15.19% 11.60% 8.86% 6.77%
2012 Ian Desmond N/A 26 26.9 0.3 2.6 81.81% 66.93% 54.75% 44.79% 36.65% 29.98% 24.53% 20.06% 16.41% 13.43%
2012 Josh Reddick N/A 25 23.1 2.2 10.1 84.65% 71.66% 60.66% 51.35% 43.47% 36.80% 31.15% 26.37% 22.32% 18.90%
2012 Martin Prado N/A 28 25.1 7.8 1.7 79.70% 63.52% 50.63% 40.35% 32.16% 25.63% 20.43% 16.28% 12.98% 10.34%
2012 Melky Cabrera 1 27 30.1 0.9 -5.4 79.08% 62.54% 49.46% 39.11% 30.93% 24.46% 19.35% 15.30% 12.10% 9.57%
2012 Miguel Montero 1 28 29.3 1.7 8.2 78.85% 62.17% 49.02% 38.65% 30.48% 24.03% 18.95% 14.94% 11.78% 9.29%
2012 Mike Trout N/A 20 29.5 53.6 13.0 95.05% 90.35% 85.89% 81.64% 77.60% 73.76% 70.12% 66.65% 63.35% 60.22%
2013 Andrelton Simmons N/A 23 25.0 -5.9 32.5 87.81% 77.10% 67.71% 59.45% 52.20% 45.84% 40.25% 35.35% 31.04% 27.25%
2013 Brandon Belt 1 25 26.1 16.7 -6.5 85.66% 73.37% 62.85% 53.83% 46.11% 39.50% 33.83% 28.98% 24.82% 21.26%
2013 Carlos Gomez N/A 27 27.5 -1.4 15.1 80.92% 65.48% 52.98% 42.87% 34.69% 28.07% 22.72% 18.38% 14.87% 12.04%
2013 Chris Davis 1 27 28.7 13.6 -13.9 81.04% 65.67% 53.22% 43.13% 34.95% 28.33% 22.96% 18.60% 15.08% 12.22%
2013 Freddie Freeman N/A 23 26.7 17.3 -14.6 87.77% 77.04% 67.62% 59.36% 52.10% 45.73% 40.14% 35.23% 30.92% 27.14%
2013 Gerardo Parra 1 26 27.9 -6.2 9.2 81.11% 65.78% 53.35% 43.27% 35.09% 28.46% 23.09% 18.72% 15.19% 12.32%
2013 Jason Castro N/A 26 26.9 2.9 4.5 82.54% 68.12% 56.23% 46.41% 38.30% 31.61% 26.09% 21.54% 17.78% 14.67%
2013 Jason Kipnis 1 26 26.5 17.6 -2.3 84.69% 71.72% 60.74% 51.44% 43.56% 36.89% 31.24% 26.46% 22.41% 18.97%
2013 Josh Donaldson N/A 27 29.8 19.0 10.9 84.45% 71.32% 60.23% 50.87% 42.96% 36.28% 30.64% 25.87% 21.85% 18.45%
2013 Juan Uribe N/A 34 31.9 -12.1 12.1 58.89% 34.68% 20.42% 12.03% 7.08% 4.17% 2.46% 1.45% 0.85% 0.50%
2013 Kyle Seager N/A 25 28.5 8.3 2.2 84.87% 72.03% 61.14% 51.89% 44.04% 37.38% 31.72% 26.92% 22.85% 19.39%
2013 Manny Machado N/A 20 23.1 0.2 28.8 91.50% 83.73% 76.61% 70.10% 64.15% 58.69% 53.71% 49.14% 44.97% 41.15%
2013 Matt Carpenter N/A 27 26.9 27.7 -3.7 84.82% 71.95% 61.03% 51.77% 43.91% 37.25% 31.60% 26.80% 22.73% 19.28%
2013 Paul Goldschmidt N/A 25 30.6 30.0 -9.6 87.39% 76.38% 66.75% 58.34% 50.98% 44.56% 38.94% 34.03% 29.74% 25.99%
2013 Starling Marte N/A 24 24.4 17.9 7.8 88.26% 77.90% 68.75% 60.68% 53.55% 47.26% 41.71% 36.82% 32.49% 28.68%
2013 Yasiel Puig N/A 22 29.4 37.6 -0.9 91.96% 84.58% 77.78% 71.53% 65.78% 60.50% 55.64% 51.17% 47.05% 43.27%
2014 Anthony Rendon N/A 24 26.4 18.4 6.2 88.17% 77.74% 68.55% 60.44% 53.29% 46.99% 41.43% 36.53% 32.21% 28.40%
2014 Anthony Rizzo N/A 24 30.0 11.5 -3.0 86.37% 74.60% 64.44% 55.65% 48.07% 41.52% 35.86% 30.97% 26.75% 23.11%
2014 Brian Dozier N/A 27 26.5 3.4 -0.5 80.33% 64.53% 51.84% 41.64% 33.45% 26.87% 21.59% 17.34% 13.93% 11.19%
2014 Christian Yelich N/A 22 25.0 17.7 -0.7 89.89% 80.81% 72.64% 65.30% 58.70% 52.77% 47.44% 42.65% 38.34% 34.46%
2014 Devin Mesoraco N/A 26 29.0 -2.0 7.8 81.78% 66.89% 54.70% 44.74% 36.59% 29.93% 24.47% 20.02% 16.37% 13.39%
2014 Erick Aybar N/A 30 25.8 -1.6 7.6 73.64% 54.22% 39.93% 29.40% 21.65% 15.94% 11.74% 8.64% 6.37% 4.69%
2014 J.D. Martinez N/A 26 27.5 1.8 -9.8 80.83% 65.33% 52.81% 42.68% 34.50% 27.89% 22.54% 18.22% 14.73% 11.90%
2014 Jonathan Lucroy N/A 28 26.4 6.4 11.2 80.37% 64.60% 51.92% 41.73% 33.54% 26.96% 21.66% 17.41% 13.99% 11.25%
2014 Jose Abreu N/A 27 31.9 42.9 -14.9 86.30% 74.48% 64.28% 55.48% 47.88% 41.32% 35.66% 30.77% 26.56% 22.92%
2014 Jose Altuve N/A 24 28.2 5.0 -6.4 85.08% 72.39% 61.59% 52.40% 44.58% 37.93% 32.27% 27.46% 23.36% 19.87%
2014 Josh Harrison N/A 26 30.4 5.4 3.4 82.79% 68.54% 56.75% 46.98% 38.90% 32.20% 26.66% 22.07% 18.27% 15.13%
2014 Juan Lagares N/A 25 28.4 -5.1 28.9 84.82% 71.95% 61.03% 51.77% 43.91% 37.25% 31.60% 26.80% 22.74% 19.28%
2014 Kevin Kiermaier N/A 24 25.7 13.1 21.3 88.48% 78.28% 69.26% 61.28% 54.22% 47.97% 42.44% 37.55% 33.22% 29.39%
2014 Lorenzo Cain N/A 28 26.3 2.8 19.4 80.49% 64.78% 52.14% 41.97% 33.78% 27.19% 21.88% 17.61% 14.18% 11.41%
2014 Michael Brantley N/A 27 25.7 10.0 -8.4 80.96% 65.55% 53.07% 42.97% 34.79% 28.17% 22.80% 18.46% 14.95% 12.10%
2014 Steve Pearce N/A 31 29.3 6.6 -3.1 71.82% 51.58% 37.04% 26.60% 19.11% 13.72% 9.85% 7.08% 5.08% 3.65%
2014 Todd Frazier N/A 28 27.5 11.0 4.4 80.61% 64.98% 52.38% 42.22% 34.03% 27.43% 22.11% 17.82% 14.37% 11.58%
2014 Yan Gomes N/A 26 27.6 9.4 13.6 84.58% 71.54% 60.51% 51.18% 43.29% 36.62% 30.97% 26.20% 22.16% 18.74%

Conclusions

After looking at this table, we can draw several conclusions. First, this Mike Trout guy is really good at baseball. Secondly, age is the main variable in determining the time until failure. The players with the highest survival rates are all under twenty-five and all the lowest survival rates are over thirty. This makes sense, because it is much easier for a twenty-year-old star to remain effective until he is thirty compared to a thirty-year-old star attempting to remain effective until he is forty. This is because older players face more challenges such as eroding skills, an increased chance of sustaining injuries and having their playing time reduced to prevent injuries.

It also appears that offensive stars survive longer than defensive stars. This is probably due to the fact that defensive skills usually deteriorate faster than offensive skills. I also believe that since defensive statistics are more volatile than offensive statistics, that players that derive much of their value from their defense are more likely to have their WAR fluctuate from year to year. This makes it more likely that a defensive star could register a scrub season one year and then become a star again the next year. And this brings me to my next point.

Things to Keep in Mind

If a player records a scrub season that does not necessarily mean that he is finished.  If this were the case, players like Aramis Ramirez, Robinson Cano and Troy Tulowitzki would have had much less productive careers. It is also important to remember that a player enters the population as soon as they record their first star season, so it is quite possible that a player could improve after their first star season and make it more likely that they can outlast their projected survival rate. The main thing to remember is that no model is perfect and no model is meant to replace the human decision-making process. Models are only meant to improve the decision-making process and it is my hope that this model has accomplished that goal.





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whole camels
8 years ago

if i understand correctly, your model assumes that as bmi increases, health decreases, which i think could work when you’re comparing a player to his past self (especially if that player is mo vaughn) but not to other players…just because (for example) ben revere’s bmi is far lower than mike trout’s doesn’t mean that revere is healthier than trout – they’re just built in fundamentally different ways. apples and oranges, so to speak. these #’s seem to be so highly correlated w/ age anyway that i wonder whether ditching bmi altogether makes sense.

that being said, fwiw, i’m not sure how you’d represent health. super interesting idea all the same.

Rob
8 years ago
Reply to  Adam Daily

This site is very useful for tracking DL stints. I don’t know if it could be automated for a large project like this, but it does have historical DL information for all players.

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/baseball/

someone
8 years ago

Using first season below 1 WAR is going to bias your numbers, simply due to injury, suspension, strike, etc. Some players manage to still be stars after one bad season.

Granted, this won’t happen very often, but it does happen. For example, according to your method, Juan Gonzales was a star for one season (5.7 WAR in 1993, 0.7 in 1994). By your method a scrub won the MVP in 1996 and 1998!

Sean Dolinarmember
8 years ago

I really, really like this approach. I wonder if survival analysis could improve aging curve models. Good work!

Alex Chamberlainmember
8 years ago

Adam — love this. A pretty ingenious application of survival analysis. Wish I thought of it!

I think Sean’s right, that it could lend new insight into aging curves.

Lanidrac
8 years ago

This is a nice idea, but it leaves out one important variable: major injuries. Through no fault of their own skills, a player can miss most or all of a season to a major injury so that they fail to post 1.0 WAR, then they come back and post several more good years, perhaps even winning Comeback Player of the Year. This is not a natural occurrence towards skill decay and as such should be exempted from the model. I suggest exempting any scrub season where PA + 3*DaysOnTheDL leaves the player eligible for the batting title. (Technically, it should be PA + 3.1*TeamGamesOnTheDL, but I believe those numbers are harder to find.)

Lanidrac
8 years ago
Reply to  Adam Daily

Well, you’d exclude them, not count them. Johnson’s count would still be just 3.

Adam Daily
8 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

Ah. I thought that you meant exclude the player not the season. I still think that the ability to avoid injury is a skill that must be rewarded. Even if the player is injured, they still recorded a scrub season that year. I guess I consider that a “true talent” evaluation includes their ability to stay healthy a whole season as well as their baseball ability. Take Tulowitzki for example. On talent alone I think he is the second best player in the league, but he cannot stay healthy so you need to take that into consideration when considering the amount of production he will provide in a season.