Jay Bruce, Matt Kemp, Perception, and Reality

Over the weekend, the Atlanta Braves swapped their bad infielder embroiled in a domestic violence incident, Hector Olivera, for nice-guy outfielder Matt Kemp. The deal was largely panned within the industry, and many felt the Padres benefited most by ridding themselves of Kemp while he still had value. Olivera’s involvement in the deal was a purely financial exchange, as he was immediately designated for assignment, and he may never play in the majors again amid the stink of mediocrity and domestic violence. But the complex financials of the deal effectively mean that to land Kemp, the Braves’ bank account will be light just $30M or so over the next three years. Forgetting for a moment the enormous misstep the Braves made in acquiring Olivera in the first place, this Kemp acquisition is unbelievably impressive considering the price other teams are paying for defensively-challenged power-hitting outfielders.

Take Jay Bruce. One of the hottest names on the hot stove this July, he got moved on Monday for Dilson Herrera and Max Wotell. The interesting thing here is that Bruce is due $13M and signed only through next season, and the Mets had to give up real talent to acquire him. Herrera, the headliner going back to the Reds for Bruce, is a 22-year-old second baseman with a .790 OPS in AAA. But the kicker here is that Bruce isn’t good. He’s been worth six wins below average over the last three years.

Consider:

  • Matt Kemp 2015/16: .263/.301/.460, 46 HR and an OPS+ of 109
  • Jay Bruce 2015/16: .240/.301/.481, 51 HR and an OPS+ of 108

Undoubtedly, Bruce has been the better player this year. His OPS+ is 20 points higher than Kemp’s, meaning he’s been about 20% better than Kemp. But let’s consider what that means for a moment. Purely in terms of slugging, it’s about 25 total bases over the course of 400 at bats. That’s an extra base every four games, or twice a week. I realize that baseball is made up of all those little differences — and that those differences are what separate the contenders and the pretenders — but we’re talking about a whole lot of luck when we’re talking about two extra bases a week.

So why does “the industry” value one of these guys so much more highly than the other? Perception. The Reds have spent the greater part of the last year building up Jay Bruce as a potential difference-maker for a playoff team desperate for power. They’ve subtly leaked rumors of his availability to the press. They’ve reminded everyone that he’s clocked 233 homers in his career, and they had to smile as Yoenis Cespedes proved last year that flawed players can bring teams over the hump.

But is Kemp really all that different from Bruce? Was Kemp available for 3/$30M to everyone? Do you realize what 3/$30M means in today’s baseball? Last offseason, Joakim Soria signed for 3/$25M while Gerardo Parra got 3/$27.5M. That type of money goes to 7th-inning relievers and 4th outfielders. Kemp doesn’t even have to be good to be worth that type of money; merely average.

But Sean, the Defense!

Eh. They’re both pretty bad at defense. Whether one guy is worth -20 runs while the other is worth -15 really doesn’t matter to me. Maybe it should, but it really doesn’t. That type of difference is similar to the white noise to which one can ascribe that one extra base per week.

So really, it comes down to a simple proposition. It’s not as glamorous as trying to pick between Nolan Arenado, Manny Machado, or any other young superstar.  You’ve got two guys. Both are power hitters and play bad defense. One might be better than the other this season, but he was way worse last year. That one costs a solid prospect, and is signed for one year at $13M. The other costs zero prospects, and is effectively signed through 2019 at ~$10M per.

Who do you take?





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Doorknob11
7 years ago

I agree, I think the main reason Kemp didn’t get the Padres anything was because 1) there wasn’t that anticipation of him being traded so there wasn’t time for teams to want him and want him more like there was with Bruce. 2) Kemp has been seen as a terrible player for the past three or so years considering his contact and even if you know that you don’t have to pay the whole thing it’s still hard to realize that he’s a good payer if you aren’t paying him a ton of money.

Rawlings_Rockeballs
7 years ago

If I was a GM for a day, I would take Bruce over Kemp and here is why. Bruce has a wRC+ of 120, to Kemp’s 103. MLB average wRC+ is 100. Bruce is 20% ABOVE MLB average, while Kemp is 3% above average. Bruce’s ISO is .288, with Kemp at a respectable .226, which statistics show ISO of .200+ are considered “Power Hitters.”

Defensive WAR, both are below MLB average. If your paying one based primarily on power, I would have to go with Bruce in NY.

Perception is both are MLB Stars, reality is both never learned how to take a walk at the MLB level. 4.1% for Kemp, and 6.8% for Bruce with a 20+ K% in 2016.

Rawlings_Rockeballs
7 years ago

Let’s see, I can get an All-Star who is having a career year, with a real shot of signing him in the offseason……. for a 22 year old 2B, whose not considered a “Top Prospect” anymore, and a P with similar skills they can draft next year? I take that every time.

Kemp, was a “Super-Star” who got paid, and found no need to get better. He could had been one of the BEST OF of his generation, yet that wasn’t important to him, money was.

JUICEMANE
7 years ago

When teams are missing the wildcard by 1 or 1.5 games, 25 extra bases over 400 at bats or 13 over 200 is the difference,that is the reality.

andy passione
7 years ago

Are you counting Olivera’s contract and the money SD gave up? Kemp is owed 21.5 million per year over the next 3 years. I don’t see how you can compare him and Bruce.

Mark Davidson
7 years ago

I gotta go with Bruce. He’s 29 to Kemp’s 31, the contractual agreement is lighter in both years and money, and now Bruce’s numbers are back up to where they were pre knee injury (drop in OBP is offset by SLG increase and improved K rate). Kemp’s miniscule walk rate is terrifying given his age and he’s not stealing bases anymore. On top of that, I’m not convinced Bruce is this bad in the field – play him a little deeper (the Mets won’t) and he could be more meh than bleh in RF.

BillyBeaneisnotmylover
7 years ago

Can I take neither?