2015 Fantasy Bust: Johnny Cueto
I was planning on covering several overvalued starting pitchers in this next article but after analyzing Reds ace Johnny Cueto, I realized I might have enough material to fill an encyclopedia.
I’m seeing Cueto being drafted in the 3rd round of the deep NFBC 15-team leagues and I’m just shaking my head in disbelief. For one, there’s too many excellent power bats left at that point in the draft and HRs are becoming more and more of a rare fantasy commodity. Secondly, there are many very good pitchers with similar profiles to Cueto available just a few rounds later. It’s a completely unnecessary pickup being fueled by a career season.
Cueto brings a few red flags into 2015, the least of which is that he just tossed 244 innings on his 5’11 frame just one year after being placed on the disabled list three separate times. There were signs down the stretch that the innings were taking a toll. His control slightly eroded in the 2nd half of the season (BB/9 climbed from 2.2 to 2.7) and his batted ball profile took on a very un-Cueto shape with groundball rates dropping below 40% with more line drives and fly balls.
In the early rounds of the draft I do not like taking unnecessary risks with ouchy players. You can survive when your 11th rounder spends half the year on the DL, but when it’s your 3rd/4th round pick your chances of winning your league take a significant hit. Pitchers with an injury history fall into this risky category and they are the type of players you should look to avoid early on.
Statistically, Cueto is coming off a fantastic season as one of the best fantasy pitchers of the 2014 season. A super productive 20 wins, 2.25 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, and 242 Ks helped crown many fantasy champions last year. His basement level .238 BABIP was aided by a superb team defensive effort and there’s reasons to be concerned that it won’t be the case in 2015.
Zack Cozart and Billy Hamilton are both two Gold Glove-caliber defensive players who saved numerous runs for the Reds staff last season (33 DRS combined) but concerns about their offensive production are real and may put their playing time in jeopardy.
With a 56 wRC+ in 2014, how long are the Reds going to tolerate Cozart’s atrocious bat? In the return of the Alfredo Simon trade they acquired Detroit SS Eugenio Suarez. Certainly an offensive upgrade from Cozart but Suarez’s -5 DRS in 622 innings for the Tigers last year show a major drop-off defensively. If the Reds decide to go with the offense, the combination of the young Suarez and aging Brandon Phillips puts a bit of a dent in that infield that Cueto needs to make plays for him. Hello BABIP regression.
In the 2nd half of the season, Hamilton was also absolutely useless at the plate (.200/.254/.257) and his 70% stolen base success rate wasn’t as great as advertised. If the bat doesn’t get off to a good start in 2015 that could be another Gold Glove-caliber defender removed from behind Cueto.
Another piece of that league best defense, fourth-outfielder Chris Heisey (+29 UZR/150 over last two seasons), has moved onto the Dodgers this offseason. Without Hamilton and Heisey that’s a much different outfield for the Reds.
There’s a strong chance that the Reds +67 DRS will be regressing significantly in 2015 and that means Cueto’s numbers will be too. Even if he manages to stay healthy, an ERA north of 3.00 and 1.10-1.15 WHIP are far more likely outcomes than he what he did last year. I will let someone else make the mistake of drafting him in the 3rd round.
Josh Barnes is founder of Top500Prospects.com. You can follow him on Twitter @jb82mets and @top500prospects
Good article. His defense and bullpen did save him a lot. Got to think that his 82.5 LOB% will move towards the league average of 73 LOB%.
With his pickoff move, he’s likely to keep it above 73%. Runners can’t get a normal jump off of him.
Analysis like this is great! You mentioned doing an article on overrated SPs: Doing a series of articles on overrated SPs would be awesome! So much attention is paid to offense in fantasy. I play in a pitching dominated league and analysis like this helps me know which guys to avoid in the first couple rounds since I have to take a pitcher in a pitcher dominated league.
Dumb article, you miss the most crucial piece about Cueto–how he has an insane pickoff move that helps to keep his babip down. Eugenio’s bat isn’t good enough to replace Cozart–who they’ve been fine with for years now. Cueto’s injury history was with his hip which he corrected late 2013 and it hasnt been an issue since. He doesnt have arm injuries in his history. Additionally, he has a deceptive delivery that helps suppress babip. He’s one of ~20 guys with a K% > 20%, O-Swing % > 35% and SwStrk % > 10% every year. SIERA had him at 3.15 and I think it’s about right, with some upside especially if he get’s traded to a pitcher-friendly park.
Agreed that he’s not a 3rd round value, but he’s a top 10 SP in the elite class:
Chris Sale
Kershaw
Lester
Cueto
Felix
Greinke
Madbum
Kluber
Price
Strasburg
These are the true beasts of the league–any of these guys you wouldn’t be surprised if they ran away with the CY. Throw Harvey or J-Fern in there once healthy.
1. Insane pick off move keeps BABIP down? Interesting.
2. Suarez hit 85 wRC+ over his first 220 PAs and is projected for 85 wRC+ next year. 8 more runs than Cozart’s 77 projection and if Cozart hits like he did last year, Suarez will be significantly better than Cozart.
3. Johnny Cueto wasn’t put on the DL in 2013 for a sore right shoulder and lat problems? That’s news to the rest of the world.
4. Cueto not being 3rd round value was sort of the point of the article. I’m glad to see you agree with me.
Thanks for your feedback. Always appreciated.
I thought the article was johnny cueto = bust. Drafting him in the 3rd and getting 6th rd value != bust, just not great value. But its sometimes ok to overpay for a true stud. In most leagues he would be available around 6th which is fair value IMO. Suarez profiles more as a util guy IMO.
I’m not sure I would take him in the 6th round. Anyway, if he stays healthy, he could earn his value somewhere in those rounds, but there’s also major downside with injury possibility. He hasn’t been reliable enough over the years to earn that trust.
The latest he’s been drafted in 15-team NFBC leagues is 52, which is Round 4, Pick 7. That would be early 5th of 12 team leagues. That is way too early.
Greinke on your list and no Waino?
That’s funny.
And Leater but no Waino? Wainwright had four 6+ BBref WAR seaaons.
I’m down on Waino this year. More on that will be in the next article.
Slightly off-topic, but are mock drafts being run on NFBC? Trying to join a few mock drafts and having trouble finding anyway. Your article seems to infer mock drafts are occurring – can you point me in the right direction?
“Draft Champions” Slow-Draft Leagues started drafting in November. These are not mocks but real money leagues.